There is nothing more disgusting or detestable than a citizen informant. Without citizen informants, tyrants could never retain the kind of power they wield. In fact, without citizen informants, totalitarian movements would never gain traction. This is why EVERY functional oligarchy throughout history has implemented programs designed to encourage the development of common spies, using the promise of monetary reward, or collective recognition.
Sadly, there are many in our society that would gladly sell out their closest friends and family to the tortures of authoritarian bureaucracy for nothing more than a firm pat on the head and a few fiat dollars. If there was ever a more degraded lot of bottom feeding opportunist scum, the citizen informant is the very epitome.
With the implementation of the “See Something, Say Something” program, and the increasing drive by the White House to institute community watch efforts to route out “extremists”, showcased quite clearly in strategic outlines like the ‘Empowering Local Partners To Prevent Violent Extremism In The United States’:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/empowering_local_partners.pdf
The issue of informant networking has come to the forefront in America. My personal view is that these nauseating and diseased people should be treated as treasonous as any globalist, regardless of stated intention. That said, in an environment rife with extraneous poverty, informancy cannot be avoided. Plenty of men and women, stricken with empty wallets and bellies, are extraordinarily prone to betrayal, regardless of their inherent morality. This is the kind of world we will soon be living in, and this is the kind of environment that corrupt officials like those in New Jersey are prone to exploit. Pathetic, weak, cowardly, but ultimately dangerous sheep unknowingly serving the very men who would seek to enslave them.
In terms of 2nd Amendment rights, I find the very idea of debate rather pointless. The logic is undeniable. If you cannot defend yourself, you are a victim. Period. You become food for predators and parasites. Any state government or national government which actively seeks to disarm its citizens is suspect. I couldn’t care less about their stated rationalizations or rhetoric. In New Jersey, in Chicago, in Washington D.C., or anywhere else for that matter, an innocent man who is disarmed by law will always be victimized by an outlaw who armed through criminality. The concept of reduced crime through gun confiscation is so naïve it warrants considerable analysis. Through such efforts, good men are left defenseless, while evil men are free to wreak havoc.
The 2nd Amendment is not a negotiable or debatable pillar of the Constitution. It is absolute in its protection. Every American, regardless of the temporary circumstances of the times, is free to arm and defend himself from ANY enemy, from average criminals, to government thugs. The gun confiscation program featured in the video below, and instituted by officials in New Jersey, should not be taken lightly. The pure idiocy inherent in its premise cannot be ignored. New Jersey’s willingness to pay off potential informants could very well be a petri dish test for much more expansive programs across the country in the future. If we cannot stop the corruption and anti-constitutionalism of a pathetic state like New Jersey, then how can we expect to disrupt the same brand of corruption throughout the U.S.?
Guns are simply not the issue. An armed and educated populace is a populace safe from crime. This is a fact. New Jersey’s informant program is a travesty of justice, not only because it encourages American on American treason, but also because it ignores the very purpose behind the Second Amendment; to create a populace free from the fear of tyranny. If we do not put an end to the anti-gun tides in New Jersey, we should fully expect to see such atrocities against freedom planted at our own front doors in the near future. There are no exceptions to the Constitution. New Jersey is not outside of its jurisdiction. Every person in that state deserves the same protections as anyone else. We must disrupt the sick and perverted no questions asked buy-off policies now prominent in that region, or be subject to the same in the near future…
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written by Oathkeeper_Scott , January 08, 2012
Great (disturbing) article, Brandon. Haven't seen this anywhere else. The internet truly is to us what the printing press was to the Founding Fathers.
This brings to mind a Ben Franklin quote: "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
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written by Oathkeeper thc0655 , January 08, 2012
I am a strong proponent of the 2nd Amendment and disgusted by the laws in the People's Republic of New Jersey. I'm also a police officer in an eastern city and respond to shootings all the time where no one saw anything. Some are scared to death but many others live by the ghetto motto "Stop Snitchin'". The thugs and those who inhabit the criminal class with them would agree wholeheartedly with Brandon Smith that ANYBODY who calls the police about the criminal activities of ANY of their neighbors is the scum of the earth. Smith has to think a little more and distinguish between Nazi collaborators and good citizens doing their civic duty. If I saw my neighbor having sex with a 12 year old in the shower after football practice, would Smith condemn me for calling the police? If I saw my neighbor pulling on a ski mask, shotgun in hand, walking into my bank would I be the same as a Nazi collaborator to call the police.
Besides, in most of America (I know NJ is moving away from us) an anonymous tip to the police stating that the man at 123 Main St. has a handgun or a full auto rifle in his house is not sufficient grounds to get a search warrant. Besides, keeping in mind that this man may be armed if I ever encounter him on the street or in his house, there's nothing the police can do except maybe knocking on his door and tricking him into incriminating himself. Police have much better things to do.
The NJ initiative is another "feel good" law/program generated by politicians to make it LOOK LIKE they are doing something about crime. Believe me: 99% of the police are rolling their eyes and walking away shaking their heads at this. Nothing can come of it, so nothing will. However, you'll know there's blood in the water when the authorities start asking us to report to them any of our neighbors who participate in the local Occupy protest, or display a campaign sign in favor of forbidden candidates like Ron Paul. Then you can get upset.
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written by redpill , January 08, 2012
The main point is that a culture of 'snitches' is being created and nurtured to serve TPTB and their control state... which will most likely be leveraged as example in other states. This is but another example of attacking the right to bear arms.
Not sure what underage sex has to do with the 2nd amendment... But your example of an obvious robbery attempt (common sense?) is outside the targeted propaganda by the state of NJ. Part of the goal of this program is to plant the seeds of paranoia in an already dumbed-down populace and play on their emotions of reward and recognition.
Over the last 1 1 1/2 years, when has lack of a search warrant precluded SWAT raids?
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written by Brandon Smith , January 08, 2012
@Oathkeeperthc
Sadly, you seem to have missed the entire point.
First, the program talks of "illegal firearms", but does not specify how a New Jersey resident is supposed to distinguish between a "legal" and "illegal" firearm. Obviously, the end result will be that NJ citizens will begin ratting out anyone that has a gun, period. This is not an environment that is conducive to liberty and freedom, and as an Oath Keeper, you should know better.
Second, you are playing a straw man game with your argument. At no point did I say that someone who points out ANY CRIME is the "scum of the earth". I am obviously referring to unconstitutional and unjust laws which turn good people into criminals through attrition. Please grow up a little, and think clearly before using straw man tactics to assert an invalid point.
Third, frankly you have NO IDEA what the New Jersey authorities will use these anonymous tips for. As a police officer, and an Oath Keeper, you should know that the state is not necessarily bound by Constitutional law anymore. Just look at the NDAA. The government is trying to assert that even the mere SUSPICION of guilt is enough to wave your individual rights. Lets not be naive...
Finally, governments have no business offering free and clear monetary rewards to accusers who are never required to identify themselves. Only a complete idiot would suggest that a surveillance society is necessary or excusable in a Constitutional Republic. The New Jersey gun program is a first step towards that exact paradigm. Please, Oathkeeperthc, consider the bigger picture before responding haphazardly. It will save us both a lot of time and energy.
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written by Brandon Smith , January 08, 2012
@RWB
The Constitution does not directly use the words "self defense", but that was the exact intent of the 2nd Amendment as is outlined in the Federalist Papers and the writings of the founding fathers. Not only was it designed to protect the right of citizen self defense, but more clearly, defense against corrupt government. Please come back when you have done more research.
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written by Cash heap of history , January 09, 2012
Cash for Gold.
Cash for Guns.
Cash for Souls.
Paper for intrinsic value.
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written by Steve Barnett , January 09, 2012
Some people live in safe neighborhoods and they never get in a situation where they are vulnerable. Let's say you are a woman and you are traveling down a country road and your car breaks down. You have no weapon and this means you can be in trouble if the wrong people come by. Let's say you jog and you jog the same path everyday. Someone see you jogging and decides to lay and wait for you the next day. If you don't have a gun you end up like that girl in Central Park. Let's say you area girl and you live alone in the country and someone tries to break into your home? If you don't have a gun they can do what they want. You city people live in your apartments and are never alone. You probably will never need a gun, but people who live in sparsely populated areas need them if nothing else, but peace of mind.
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written by Joe Bassett , January 09, 2012
Many people get themselves in a dangerous situation. They will park their car in a dark area down a side street and between them and the car are bad elements, but they just walk towards them thinking nothing can happen. Sometimes a young woman might stop in a bad area to get a soda and by the soda machine are four bad looking dudes. My brother and I were riding our bikes one day and he wanted to ride up to this soda machine to get a soda. There was four black dudes by the machine. I told him don't go up there, but he just had to do it. They took his bike and were pushing him around. I stayed on the road and told people in cars to call the police. We left and the next day my father who was K-9 patrol went into the black neighborhood looking for the ones who had done it.
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written by Skwyrley , January 09, 2012
Come down to New Orleans where we have twelve shootings every weekend, where within the span of three weeks a two year old and an eleven year old were killed by gunshots to the head, unintentionally! Where there are bodies dropping in the street continuously (most under the age of majority)! Then tell me what your solution is to violence in the streets! The criminals are shooting each other and every innocent citizen (regardless of their age) who gets in their way are the TRUE SCUMBAGS TO ME! In my opinion only, apparently! I also agree that innocent citizens should be able to protect and defend themselves! Here we're allowed to but the CRIMINALS ARE STILL RULING OUR CITY!
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written by Awakened Avenger , January 09, 2012
Checka+NKVD+NVD+SD+GESTAPO+STASI+SAVAK=Oppression! The central theme that these entities shared was their heavy reliance upon citizen snitches. With economic times as trying as they are, does this surprise any conscious citizen-patriot? Things are going to get worse! Prepare
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written by Awakened Avenger , January 09, 2012
'Incentives' such as this willful disrespect of the 2nd Amendment are among some the main reasons I and my family moved the fuck out of NJ. I'll never go back! Live Free!
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written by Brandon Smith , January 09, 2012
@sad
The only thing sad here is your moronic assumption that you will never be faced with the possibility of directed violence. When you are (and you will be), you'll be changing your tune rather quickly. But of course, when that time comes, it will be too late...
No gun owner here lives in "fear and paranoia". We don't have to, because we are already prepared for the worst case scenario. I am at my leisure when it comes to the possibility of crime. You might say the same, but the difference between us is that your leisure is based in ignorance. Mine is based in experience, and readiness.
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written by Kevin J Lankford , January 09, 2012
If one believes in the Constitution and the second
amendment then one must concede there is no
such thing as an illegal firearm or illegal possession
of a firearm.
Any crime harsh enough to deprive one of a civil
right should be harsh enough to keep them in
prison the rest of their life if not executed.
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written by Ruth Barnes , January 09, 2012
All this snitching and such crap folks is getting us ready for the rise of the Antichrist and his system..... Soon it will be, see any Christians holding bible studies.... how about someone handing out Christian tracts.... see anyone that does not have the mark on their right hand or forehead.... turn them in... for money credited to your bank account...... turn them in....... turn them in....
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written by anonymous123 , January 09, 2012
Listen guys he said we don't even need a conviction. Just charge and get the gun off the streets. Witch means he is trying to remove legal guns.
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written by God is Ashame of you ALL , January 09, 2012
Like "war is peace" so to "guns are peace."
Can't fight for peace if you don't have guns so,
lose your guns and lose your peace!
See who really ends up only allowed to have guns, after you surrender yours....only the bad guys, period!
We also have to outlaw other things that kill people: war, religion, knives, cars, trains, ropes, screwdrivers, water, fire, old age....hey why stop there?
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written by Speedypete , January 09, 2012
I dare any Governor, State Legislator Congressman, Senator or president to sit through circuit court for a few days. Oh, but they have because they are mostly--lawyers. The sentences handed out for gun possession or intentional use would amaze most of you. As long as no one was injured or murdered the sentence is a slap on the wrist. Yet, they want you to turn in your neighbors? And if you have a clean record and an honest taxpayer, especially from out of state, they will clean you out of money and take away your freedom. Don't trust the mantra. They are all liars including Chris.
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written by Kevin J Lankford , January 09, 2012
@ george christie,
You profess support for the right to own firearms then
begin listing all the same excuses used by anti-gun nuts
use for depriving citizens of their right. Just who is
qualified to point to each individual and make that
judgement. I grant no one that authority over me.
A crime must be committed before one can be punished. The Bill of Attainder clause of the
Constitution means that depriving one of a civil
right can not be used as punishment for a crime.
That is the very reason judges want us to believe
driving a car is a privilege and not a right.
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written by posetong , January 09, 2012
The Mayor of this Communist New Jersey City is a douche bag lackey with all of his other douche bag lackey slobs in the left wing psychpathic media. Go croak you communist lying bastard.
Hey so called Conservative Governor christie, where are you in the face of this aggression, you stinking fat lying liberal bastard. your as conservative as my stupid democratic grandma was.
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written by Leonardo Pisano , January 09, 2012
Great post, Brandon, as always.
This story brings back memories to my fiction story "We need you, granma!" which I shamelessly promote here for people who like to read a bit for fun: http://www.leonardopisano.com/?p=78
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written by Frank Welman , January 09, 2012
I would love to know where the money is coming from. But at least this mayor said "illegal guns", unlike the Mayor of my city who only refers to "getting guns off the street"....There's a difference
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written by Brandon Smith , January 10, 2012
@Frank
There are two problems with the use of the word illegal in this program. First, how is anyone supposed to know when a person is carrying an "illegal" gun, versus a legal gun in NJ? They all look the same to me. The only possible result of this program will be that people begin turning in ANYONE who has a gun, period! This will breed paranoia amongst gun owners and snitches. Its a recipe for disaster.
Second, the very idea that you have to have a permit in NJ to own a gun is unconstitutional. I don't care what the Supreme Court says. A permit turns a right into a privilege. That is certainly not what the founders intended when they drafted the 2nd Amendment. Not only should this snitch program be shot down, but the permit legislation in NJ should be scrapped.
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written by Dolorosa , January 10, 2012
It's called Communism! Read the book, Toward Soviet America. It's enslavement, brutal, evil, etc.
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written by Proudvietvet58 , January 10, 2012
This is unconstitutional, cowardly and just plain stupid. Pill this stunt in Louisiana and you would get your home burned down for being a traitor. If you poeple are that stupid, hope to it but don't expect help from any of us WITH Legal weapons to protect you.
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written by Proudvietvet58 , January 10, 2012
You bunch of dolts who dreamed up the tattle tail system need a good sound a55 whipping. Come to Louisiana and we will "Show you the way".
What are you going to defend your family with while your wife is being gang raped??? A broom???
Stupid, stupid people!!!
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written by The Voice of Reason , January 10, 2012
Well, I'm totally surprised to see my tax dollars are once again financing liberal ajendas. Notice how Democrats can't ever get anythign acomplished wihtout using other peoples money to pay for it??
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written by Cynical but not crazy , January 12, 2012
A gun is illegal if it's owned by the guy down the street, who is a felon and scares the life out of everyone on the block. People in the neighborhood know who's who, and there's a reason this program takes anonymity so seriously.
How police can use the information:
Check if the guy being ratted on is a felon. Then get him off the street.
I'm not saying this mayor is right but I've lived in neighborhoods where a tip line would have been handy, and the least scary thing about the police. Put down Ayn Rand just long enough to get a little perspective, guys.
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written by JeffNJ , January 12, 2012
Brandon, very interesting take on "See Something, Say Something." My pet peeve is the 4th Amendment and the illlegal and abusive actions of the TSA, the 50,000 person strong civilian agency that bypasses the Constitution. They use strip search scanners that either show your nude image or are the 50% of scanners with ATR software which hides the nude image but STILL performs an inch-by-inch search of your body (even if convenient through technology). They touch people's crotches, buttocks, and female breasts quite often - all of us would be arrested if we did this to our neighbors and the police CANNOT DO that without reasonable suspicion.
My point: I still struggle with limitations on the exercise of rights... the classic of shouting FIRE in a crowded movie theatre comes to mind.
At any rate, the See Something, Say Something program is now broadcast at hotels (example, the Hilton channel in their properties) where DHS expects us to spy on our neighbors. The concept is dangerous and what defines police states, even if the motives are different from traditional police states.
The $1000 reward does have the flaw you point out - although I could make a great argument that many people know their local drug dealer or gang banger doesn't have an illegal gun, you can still have mistakes.
Based on my observations how people accept the unconstituional searches at airports (not talking legal metal detectors which courts have allowed for a long time...), it is probably better to err on the side of caution. The 2nd Amendment gets tremendous support, and I used to think it was a little bit overboard (and I grew up with Hunter Safety courses, and hunting) sometimes.....but now, I see you need to stand up even if many people might see nothing wrong with some of these programs.
The Courts are taking the Bill of Rights away....so thanks for your purity.
Cheers,
Jeff
http://fttusa.org (if interested in TSA issues)
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written by Brandon Smith , January 12, 2012
@Cynical
So its that easy to tell if a gun is "illegal"? Gee, I guess all we have to do is go through each person in NJ one by one, pick out the obvious "felons" (oh boy...), and then disarm and jail them. No sweat. And I thought in America we were all innocent until proven guilty, and that you need probable cause to search, detain, and arrest a person. Silly me.
Btw, looking "like a felon" is not probable cause. You're not cynical, Cynical, simply ignorant of how the Constitution and the Bill Of Rights works...
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written by PioneerWife , January 13, 2012
Am I the only person who is reminded of the Spanish Inquisition when I read this? Back then people were also encouraged to rat out suspicious neighbors, all for a "good cause". The result was millions of innocent deaths and also one of the largest transfers of wealth in history, since, you guessed it, the Church got to keep any land and goods the guilty had accumulated.
Likewise, once accused, it was almost impossible to prove one's innocence.
Is this what we really want to get back to? Let's grow up. We're better than this...
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written by none , January 13, 2012
guns dont kill people bullets do.
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written by Proudly John Edwards , January 14, 2012
turn the system on it self.........use the criminal Stalinist program on the socialists that created! IF u suspect that the mayor is dealing drugs then call the DEA with the info or if u suspect the Mayor has illegal weapons then call the ATF, if u suspect the Mayor is having criminal relations with children then call the CPS/HRS..............there are probably fifty agencies that are required by law to respond SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO use them to report the allegedly criminal activities by the low life of which the Mayor speaks.
The System must be broached now.
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written by GA Gunlover , January 15, 2012
This is an excellent opportunity for anybody with a concealed carry permit in NewJersey to make some great money. You and a friend can team up and take turns turning each other in and split the money each time. Then after they have arrested you enough, without legal cause you can slap the city with a huge harassment law suit.
beware the unintended consequences.
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written by GoldenBB http://bjm05051971.my90forlife.com/ , December 15, 2012
Brandon you hit it on the spot, and I pity the poor fools that are or will be government snitches.
Americans are not eastern Euro"peons" and we will leave those that do collude with tyrants on display for all to see what is in store for them and their masters.
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